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CONCEDER [ Friday, 14 Aug 09 | 21:14 ]
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"Vista su solicitud de renovación de autorización de residencia temporal… RESUELVE:

CONCEDER la renovación solicitada…"

Translation: I got a letter in the mail that my application for residing in Spain for another two years was approved. All I have to do now is to pay the fee, assemble some more paperwork, and head over to the Comisaría de Policía in Badalona and get a new ID card. It took two months for them to decide I could stay here.

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[User Picture]From: gorkabear
Saturday, 15 Aug 09 | 01:27 (UTC)
They won't give you a plastic card this time
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[User Picture]From: ursine1
Saturday, 15 Aug 09 | 05:48 (UTC)

They won't give you a plastic card this time

No? What will they give me then?

I am supposed to show up with my anterior tarjeta de identidad de extranjero and 3 fotografies carnet recientes. So I would assume I would be getting a new card. Oh, and of course I have to bring the justificante del pago. Interesting that I have to appear una vez haya caducado su anterior autorización de residencia.

Good thing that no one looks at the date on the ID card, just my name and face.

Chuck
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[User Picture]From: gorkabear
Wednesday, 19 Aug 09 | 21:27 (UTC)

Re: They won't give you a plastic card this time

Well, did you get it?
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[User Picture]From: ursine1
Thursday, 20 Aug 09 | 04:19 (UTC)

Not yet

I went to Badalona on Tuesday to submit my papers from the Ministro de Asuntos Exteriores y de Cooperación to the Ministro de Interior. Everything is OK. I have to pay another 18 € and pick up my new plastic ID card on 18 September. I was allowed to keep my old card so no pasa res.

Chuck
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[User Picture]From: gorkabear
Thursday, 20 Aug 09 | 10:34 (UTC)

Re: Not yet

Ah, so you're keeping the plastic ID? EU citizens don't
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[User Picture]From: ursine1
Friday, 21 Aug 09 | 04:21 (UTC)

You're keeping the plastic ID?

Yes, I am keeping my "old" ID card. Most EU citizens have ID cards issued by their own governments so don't need a Spanish. Of course the UK is an exception, just like the pound is to the euro.

I have my resguardo to redeem for my new ID card next month.

Chuck
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[User Picture]From: beardoc
Saturday, 15 Aug 09 | 11:21 (UTC)
When are you getting citizenship?
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[User Picture]From: ursine1
Saturday, 15 Aug 09 | 14:37 (UTC)

When are you getting citizenship?

I'm in the least "privileged" group, so for me citizenship requires ten years of residency. There are no "tests" or "exams", just paperwork to submit. (And pay a fee.) But there's no $1M AUS requirement like I have heard for Oz or "point system" like there is for Canada.

If I were to marry a Spaniard then after one year of residency I could get a Spanish passport. As you know, gay marriage has been allowed here for four years. (Zapatero made sure that it was published in the "Official State Bulletin" to make the law effective on the Friday before gay pride in 2005.)

Also Sephardic Jews, regardless of their nationality, can become citizens after two years of residency. (This is "atonement" fot the expulsion of Jews in 1492 by the "Catholic Monarchs", the same ones that sent Columbus sailing west.)

People from former colonies also get expedited citizenship. And people who have a least one parent or grandparent that is Spanish or was born in Spain can get a passport by walking into a Spanish consulate. Many people in Puerto Rico qualify for this one. But even though I lived in "New Spain" (California), I have to go to the end of the queue.

Chuck
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[User Picture]From: beardoc
Saturday, 15 Aug 09 | 23:05 (UTC)

Re: When are you getting citizenship?

I scored my British citizenship three working days after sending in paperwork showing my father was a British Citizen (he was Scottish) at the time I was born.

You could always marry me in Great Britain and then you'd get an EU passport. *grin*

But it's a case that you should be able to get this renewed up until the point that you get the citizenship - they won't turf you out before then, will they?
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[User Picture]From: ursine1
Sunday, 16 Aug 09 | 04:48 (UTC)

Citizenship or residency?

Once you have been a "temporary" resident for 5 years, you can apply to be a permanent resident. It's just a different check box on the same form. You can continually renew that every 5 years. You don't have to become a citizen. I think the residency renewals are fairly routine.

Oh, and you can't get married in the UK; "civil partnership" is not the same as marriage.

Chuck

Edited at 2009-08-16 04:50 am (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: beardoc
Sunday, 16 Aug 09 | 06:51 (UTC)

Re: Citizenship or residency?

Yes, I know. But it does confer the ability to attain a UK passport, which is what I was talking about.
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[User Picture]From: ursine1
Sunday, 16 Aug 09 | 09:09 (UTC)

a UK passport

No, but I can attain an EU passport. There's really no advantage of a UK over an EU passport when I already have a US passport.

Chuck, and I'd rather not be a subject of HRM, it's bad enough here
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[User Picture]From: beardoc
Sunday, 16 Aug 09 | 09:29 (UTC)

Re: a UK passport

I understand what you mean. I only brought it up as a lighthearted alternative to what you're doing now in order to get an EU passport. I'm sorry if my humour went awry.
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[User Picture]From: ursine1
Sunday, 16 Aug 09 | 09:52 (UTC)

As we say here:

No pasa res.

Carles
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